steam cockup

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 16:37

right, again i have a problem with steam

for some reason when i click on the steam icon or any of the games no windows open or the little thing in the status bar thing next to the clock but steam.exe does appear in processes on ctrl+alt+del. i did the obvious thing of ending the process and starting it again but it doesnt want to start at all..its not just a one off thing. so ive uninstalled it and re-installed it and updated the graphics driver but still no luck

any ideas?

MrGreen · Post by **MrGreen** » May 14th, 2007, 16:49

Wrong sub forum.

eion · Post by **eion** » May 14th, 2007, 16:54

MrGreen wrote:Wrong sub forum.

"Questions and reviews on computer hardware, software..."

Seems like a perfectly appropriate sub-forum to me.

Try using Process Explorer rather than Task Manager - it might give you some extra insight. Beyond that, I don't have any advice I'm afraid.

MrGreen · Post by **MrGreen** » May 14th, 2007, 16:57

Considering the software in question has its own sub-forum, I'd consider it best, but you are still right.

As for help, I'd back up all your content, delete everything steam related and re install.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 17:31

eion wrote: Try using Process Explorer rather than Task Manager - it might give you some extra insight. Beyond that, I don't have any advice I'm afraid.

tried that but i dont think it gives me any other help or info that i didn't already know. thanks anyway

eion · Post by **eion** » May 14th, 2007, 17:38

Try killing off any other weird stuff that could be causing problems - PeerGuardian stopped Steam from working for me (different failure mode though), but it could be something else that isn't playing fair. Any funny-looking processes?

Also, what have you changed since Steam last worked?

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » May 14th, 2007, 17:43

Tried disabling most things like av's and suchlike?

Also, try killing explorer.exe, and just try running steam via the run box of doom.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 17:47

god theres loads of bloody processes running on this thing and i dont know what half of them are.

plus, im not sure whether i rolled back my graphics driver before or after steam went balls up because the newest driver wasnt running games properly. its now on about november 06. other than that i dont think theres much else of huge importance

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 17:50

buzzmong wrote:Tried disabling most things like av's and suchlike?

Also, try killing explorer.exe, and just try running steam via the run box of doom.

even killing explorer it still doesnt open but remains in processes!

eion · Post by **eion** » May 14th, 2007, 17:53

thewombleofdeath wrote: god theres loads of bloody processes running on this thing and i dont know what half of them are.

To get a list of them in text form, if you're using XP Pro, at the command line type the following:

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WMIC /OUTPUT:C:\Out.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid

and let us know what's in the output text file (C:\Out.txt).

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » May 14th, 2007, 17:56

eion wrote:
To get a list of them in text form, if you're using XP Pro, at the command line type the following:
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WMIC /OUTPUT:C:\Out.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid
and let us know what's in the output text file (C:\Out.txt).

This

I was going to screeny and post my own xp home system processes, and highlight the ones I use that are NOT windows native, so you can get an idea of what should be running.

If you have trouble outputting a list, I shall do so.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 17:56

ive just printscreened it but i'll do this if its easier

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 18:01

right.....

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Caption               CommandLine                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   ProcessId  
System Idle Process                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 0          
System                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              4          
smss.exe              \SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 724        
csrss.exe             C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16  800        
winlogon.exe          winlogon.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  828        
services.exe          C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              876        
lsass.exe             C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 888        
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     1092       
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k rpcss                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1192       
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1304       
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService                                                                                                                                                                                                                             1400       
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService                                                                                                                                                                                                                               1548       
ccSvcHst.exe          "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon                                                                                                                                                                                                      1612       
AppSvc32.exe          "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AppCore\AppSvc32.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                          1744       
symlcsvc.exe          "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCPD-LC\SYMLCSVC.EXE"                                                                                                                                                                                                          1948       
LEXBCES.EXE           C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               344        
LEXPPS.EXE            LEXPPS.EXE                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    384        
spoolsv.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               392        
AluSchedulerSvc.exe   "C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1752       
guard.exe             "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                     1840       
ccSvcHst.exe          "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h cltCommon                                                                                                                                                                                                     1852       
ehrecvr.exe           C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1980       
ehSched.exe           C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2040       
SAgent2.exe           "C:\Program Files\Common Files\EPSON\EBAPI\SAgent2.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                       612        
mdm.exe               "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\mdm.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                             1480       
nvsvc32.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               1976       
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService                                                                                                                                                                                                                               2112       
svchost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     2144       
ULCDRSvr.exe          "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                2264       
USBDeviceService.exe  "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\USBDeviceService.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                     2396       
mcrdsvc.exe           C:\WINDOWS\ehome\mcrdsvc.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2492       
ehtray.exe            "C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 3740       
RTHDCPL.exe           "C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3752       
jusched.exe           "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\jusched.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                           3884       
DetectorApp.exe       "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\DetectorApp.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                          3960       
rundll32.exe          rundll32.exe nview.dll,nViewInitialize                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        3988       
issch.exe             "C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\UpdateService\issch.exe" -start                                                                                                                                                                                                  4032       
ABOARD.EXE            "C:\apps\ABoard\ABoard.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   744        
lxbkbmgr.exe          "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmgr.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                          784        
iTouch.exe            "C:\Program Files\Logitech\iTouch\iTouch.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 852        
realsched.exe         "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe"  -osboot                                                                                                                                                                                                         376        
lxbkbmon.exe          "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmon.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2204       
ccApp.exe             "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                     2208       
iTunesHelper.exe      "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2096       
EM_EXEC.EXE           "C:\Program Files\Logitech\MouseWare\system\em_exec.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2656       
avgas.exe             "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe" /minimized                                                                                                                                                                                                          4040       
dllhost.exe           C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe /Processid:{02D4B3F1-FD88-11D1-960D-00805FC79235}                                                                                                                                                                                             664        
iPodService.exe       "C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   892        
rundll32.exe          "C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE" C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit                                                                                                                                                                                             3052       
alg.exe               C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   1244       
Ad-Watch.exe          "C:\PROGRA~1\Norman\NORMAN~1\Ad-Watch.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    3572       
ctfmon.exe            "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              3620       
xfire.exe             "C:\Program Files\Xfire\xfire.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2300       
E_S10IC2.EXE          C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE /F "C:\DOCUME~1\Chris\LOCALS~1\Temp\E_S3.tmp"                                                                                                                                                                         3880       
firefox.exe           "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                5260       
usnsvc.exe            "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\usnsvc.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   3816       
explorer.exe          "C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     2088       
wmic.exe              "C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem\WMIC.exe" /OUTPUT:C:\Out.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid                                                                                                                                                                              4408       
wmiprvse.exe          C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe

VOILA!

eion · Post by **eion** » May 14th, 2007, 18:07

Not seeing anything immediately untoward there, except for E_S10IC2.EXE (no idea what that is, given that I'm about a minute away from passing out off to bed).

If it's not solved by morning, I'll take a better look at it then.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » May 14th, 2007, 18:08

eion wrote:Not seeing anything immediately untoward there, except for E_S10IC2.EXE (no idea what that is, given that I'm about a minute away from passing out off to bed).

If it's not solved by morning, I'll take a better look at it then.

E_S10IC2.EXE looks like printer related fluff.

Nothing really comes to mind for this issue, launch and nuke?

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » May 14th, 2007, 18:39

And in responce:

Windows critical (leave them alone)

smss.exe
csrss.exe
winlogon.exe
services.exe
lsass.exe
svchost.exe (any of these you cannot kill, system critical)
alg.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
nvsvc32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe (nvidia stuffs)

Windows you can kill:

spoolsv.exe
explorer.exe "C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe" (well, you can, it's only the gui frontend)
wmiprvse.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe
wmic.exe "C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem\WMIC.exe"
rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE"
dllhost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe
rundll32.exe rundll32.exe nview.dll,nViewInitialize
mdm.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\mdm.exe"

Anything else you can kill:

ccSvcHst.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon

AppSvc32.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AppCore\AppSvc32.exe"

symlcsvc.exe "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCPD-LC\SYMLCSVC.EXE"

LEXBCES.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE

LEXPPS.EXE
AluSchedulerSvc.exe "C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe"

guard.exe "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe"

ccSvcHst.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h cltCommon

ehrecvr.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe

ehSched.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe

SAgent2.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\EPSON\EBAPI\SAgent2.exe"

ULCDRSvr.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe"

USBDeviceService.exe "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\USBDeviceService.exe"

mcrdsvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\ehome\mcrdsvc.exe

ehtray.exe "C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe"

RTHDCPL.exe "C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE"

jusched.exe "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\jusched.exe"

DetectorApp.exe "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\DetectorApp.exe"

issch.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\UpdateService\issch.exe" -start

ABOARD.EXE "C:\apps\ABoard\ABoard.exe"

lxbkbmgr.exe "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmgr.exe"

iTouch.exe "C:\Program Files\Logitech\iTouch\iTouch.exe"

realsched.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot

lxbkbmon.exe "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmon.exe"

ccApp.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"

iTunesHelper.exe "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"

EM_EXEC.EXE "C:\Program Files\Logitech\MouseWare\system\em_exec.exe" 2656

avgas.exe "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe" /minimized

iPodService.exe "C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe"

Ad-Watch.exe "C:\PROGRA~1\Norman\NORMAN~1\Ad-Watch.exe"

ctfmon.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"
xfire.exe "C:\Program Files\Xfire\xfire.exe"

E_S10IC2.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE /F "C:\DOCUME~1\Chris\LOCALS~1\Temp\E_S3.tmp"

firefox.exe "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"

usnsvc.exe "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\usnsvc.exe"

Of which I'd personally stop (should all be safe to terminate):

LEXBCES.EXE
LEXPPS.EXE
AluSchedulerSvc.exe
ehrecvr.exe
ehSched.exe
SAgent2.exe
ULCDRSvr.exe
USBDeviceService.exe
mcrdsvc.exe
ehtray.exe
RTHDCPL.exe
jusched.exe
DetectorApp.exe
issch.exe
ABOARD.EXE
lxbkbmgr.exe
iTouch.exe
realsched.exe
lxbkbmon.exe
iTunesHelper.exe
EM_EXEC.EXE
iPodService.exe
ctfmon.exe
E_S10IC2.EXE
firefox.exee
usnsvc.exe

Although, I'm posing the question: Why all the ipod rubbish? Why both lexmark and epson processess, surely you only run one printer at a time?
And, should really turn off the real and java updaters asap.

Post by **deject** » May 14th, 2007, 20:13

the only bad thing the java updater might do is use up a minuscule amount of resources.

also, have you tried nuking it from orbit*?

*uninstall and delete all directories and registry keys

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » May 14th, 2007, 20:17

deject wrote:the only bad thing the java updater might do is use up a minuscule amount of resources.

also, have you tried nuking it from orbit*?

*uninstall and delete all directories and registry keys

True, but this is about getting CS:S to work, not general housekeeping, therefore, kill EVERYTHING!

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » May 14th, 2007, 20:35

are you sure its a process that is killing steam and not a driver or a virus or something?

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » May 14th, 2007, 20:41

thewombleofdeath wrote:are you sure its a process that is killing steam and not a driver or a virus or something?

Only one way to find out right?

But, make sure all your drivers are upto date first.