Help, before I break the thing...

The Shutting Downs · Post by **The Shutting Downs** » June 8th, 2009, 20:47

So, PC motherboard started to go into its death throes.

New one bought, seemed okay, until I went to plug the monitor in.

I've gotten the wrong connectors. Both the Board socket and the monitor plug are male (no jokes please).

Also, I can't plug the graphics card into the new board, as the board is smaller and would mean the rest of the connections are out.

I actually managed to find helpful person in PC world (yes, it can happen) but they don't have any that I need in stock.

So, I have need for an adaptor, if someone knows where one can be found, and wondering if anyone wants a Geforce 7300GT graphics card?

Please be gentle, I've never rebuilt a computer before this...

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 8th, 2009, 20:54

Right, I'm confused. possible to take photos of what you have?

Post by **deject** » June 8th, 2009, 21:00

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:Right, I'm confused. possible to take photos of what you have?

pics would be very helpful

amblin · Post by **amblin** » June 8th, 2009, 21:17

Post by **HereComesPete** » June 8th, 2009, 21:34

amblin wrote:Though better would be makes and models.

Not really.

The confusion as I see it is TSD's rather vague werding on what's not going where and why*. Pictures would be as useful as make/model lists if not more so.

I randomly suspect mATX if things aren't lining up. I've honestly not got a clue what you mean by the male to male/board socket (I know what they are but cannot for the life of me apply context) unless it's dvi on the card and you only have vga cables.

* This sounds a bit dickish and I don't mean it to in any way. Plenty (probably the majority in fact) of people do not nerd all over pc parts despite their love of pc's.

Baliame · Post by **Baliame** » June 8th, 2009, 21:54

The Shutting Downs wrote:Please be gentle, I've never rebuilt a computer before this...

Well you're doing pretty good compared to me

First time I tried to build a computer, I forgot to screw the little things into the case which hold the motherboard up, so basically I nearly short-circuited a brand new mobo.

Second time I built one, I overlooked a section in the manual and didn't plug in one of the power sources, sent the whole computer to a repair shop, where they couldn't identify the problem either, and I was on the way with the computer to the capital to change the allegedly faulty parts when I discovered that a plug just fits in that hole right there.

Right, issues.

If you can't plug it into the motherboard, it's very much possible you have an AGP graphics card and a PCI-E slotted motherboard or vice versa.

As for both end being a male, well, you'll either convince both sides they're faaabulous or check it again because I'm pretty sure all graphics cards are designed to be females. Unless I misunderstand it -- both my display and my graphics card has a female socket on it, with a two-male-side connector if that's what you mean, it *should* be correct.

Confusion: Why have you tried to plug the display into the GPU before you inserted it into your motherboard? It makes less sense than I usually do.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 8th, 2009, 21:59

HereComesPete wrote:The confusion as I see it is TSD's rather vague werding on what's not going where and why*. Pictures would be as useful as make/model lists if not more so.

this, I asked for photos for a reason

Baliame · Post by **Baliame** » June 8th, 2009, 22:07

By the way, dug up a few images, might help.

Which one of these is present on your motherboard?

Far as I see, GeForce 7300GT is PCI-E by the way.

As for the male/female issue, you should have a cable which have either these DVI ends or those older ones (the name escapes me) on both ends.

Finally, both your display and graphics card should have one of these or the older ones, if they differ, use an adapter.

Post by **Joose** » June 8th, 2009, 22:22

From the brief chat I had with him about it earlier, I believe Bally might be on to something with the PCI-E/AGP thing.

I think the reason he is trying to plug it in without a graphics card in is that he was attempting to use on board graphics till he gets the right flavour of graphics card.

Post by **HereComesPete** » June 8th, 2009, 22:45

I've honestly not seen mobo's with an on board/external connection to the discreet graphics for quite some time. I hear more AMD cpu based mobo's have them however.

You can get agp flavour 7300's, just to confuse.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 8th, 2009, 22:56

Joose wrote:From the brief chat I had with him about it earlier, I believe Bally might be on to something with the PCI-E/AGP thing.

I think the reason he is trying to plug it in without a graphics card in is that he was attempting to use on board graphics till he gets the right flavour of graphics card.

I think he's possibly on the right lines too, but I didn't want to confuse matters without seeing what was going on.

The Shutting Downs · Post by **The Shutting Downs** » June 9th, 2009, 5:51

Pics would be great, but I'm on a borrowed laptop at the mometn, and the camera is elsewhere...
Will update this evening when I have more time to open the case... bloody early shift...

Post by **Dog Pants** » June 9th, 2009, 7:05

Baliame wrote:First time I tried to build a computer, I forgot to screw the little things into the case which hold the motherboard up, so basically I nearly short-circuited a brand new mobo.

I did that too.

Post by **FatherJack** » June 9th, 2009, 9:15

Sounds like AGP/PCI-e and that he's trying to plug the monitor into the serial port.

Post by **ProfHawking** » June 9th, 2009, 12:10

FatherJack wrote:Sounds like AGP/PCI-e and that he's trying to plug the monitor into the serial port.

Count the number of pins on the monitor cable and the computer.

Monitor connector: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... _15pin.jpg

Serial Port: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... loseup.jpg

Have a go counting the pins to see which ones you have

Baliame · Post by **Baliame** » June 9th, 2009, 13:22

I believe he doesn't have an actual problem with the display plug, as he isn't going to use the on-board graphics plug. (which actually raises a question, integrated GPU, what kind of mobo is this anyway?)

I think it's a simple AGP/PCI-E mess-up.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 9th, 2009, 13:43

The Shutting Downs wrote: I've gotten the wrong connectors. Both the Board socket and the monitor plug are male (no jokes please).

The Shutting Downs · Post by **The Shutting Downs** » June 10th, 2009, 5:07

I has found my problem.

when I asked Joose to help me choose a new board he looked at this one;

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151053

And said 'yup, thats got everything you need'

Not noticing it doesn't have on board graphics. So the reason the\monitor won't plug in, is it isn't the monitor socket. Told you I'm new at this.

Anyone suggest a decent (but not expensive) card to go with this?

Post by **Dog Pants** » June 10th, 2009, 9:31

Bad Joose, giving dodgy tech advice. I think you should make him buy you a new card

Post by **FatherJack** » June 10th, 2009, 10:03

Dog Pants wrote:Bad Joose, giving dodgy tech advice. I think you should make him buy you a new card

He'd probably buy the wrong one.

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