Extremely bad fps in everything

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 22nd, 2005, 18:20

Tried it, I'm using the same drivers I was before i sent off my PC to get fixed since i thought the newer ones might be causing the problem.
This is really getting me frustrated, I hate it when things break for no aparent reason.
I'm going to play cod:uo for a bit since i'm getting sick of this, it runs fine but newer games dont.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 22nd, 2005, 18:25

hmmm.

that'd make me wonder if it was a heat or psu issue.

Post by **Roman Totale** » September 22nd, 2005, 18:45

Have you given it an "Engineer's Tap"?

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 22nd, 2005, 18:56

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:hmmm.

that'd make me wonder if it was a heat or psu issue.

Maybe the PSU, I dont think its any hotter than it used to be. It looks like i'm going to have to phone the tech support people, or email them, that'd probably be easier than attempting to tell some one who doesnt know what theyre doing whats wrong then them saying, ok i'll put you through to a technician now and you can explain all that again.

Edit: btw, do you know of any way to test the psu?

Roman_Totale wrote:Have you given it an "Engineer's Tap"?

Tried it, I wonder if the "Thow it out the window" method might help.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 22nd, 2005, 19:11

*points to edit in above post*

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 22nd, 2005, 19:16

mbm will do voltage monitoring too

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 22nd, 2005, 19:21

hmm, doesnt that need you to specify your mobo though? i have some OEM board that probably isnt listed.

Edit: nope, it isnt listed.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 22nd, 2005, 19:25

in that case, you're probably fucked.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 22nd, 2005, 19:27

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:in that case, you're probably fucked.

Oh well, tech support tiem, and i'll probably lose my pc for another 3 weeks

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » September 22nd, 2005, 19:47

Roman_Totale wrote:Have you given it an "Engineer's Tap"?

hehe

in my experience percussive maintenance does actually work sometimes

northernwifeb3ta · Post by **northernwifeb3ta** » September 22nd, 2005, 22:32

make sure your power connector is in the back of the graphics card, maybe they were fucking around with the wiring and didn't hook it back up correctly. make sure its pushed in properly, without the proper power it'll run like michael j fox - very shakey.

you may also need to enter a cvar command, but i don't know how to do this with beef2, only with coduo.

good luck bro

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 22nd, 2005, 22:35

northernwifeb3ta wrote:make sure your power connector is in the back of the graphics card, maybe they were fucking around with the wiring and didn't hook it back up correctly. make sure its pushed in properly, without the proper power it'll run like michael j fox - very shakey.

you may also need to enter a cvar command, but i don't know how to do this with beef2, only with coduo.

good luck bro

most graphics cards will make a massive fuss without the power lead.

and in game cvars are not how to cure system wide borkedness.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 23rd, 2005, 13:36

I dont think the 6610xl/6600gt needs a power connector anyway. I'm going to have a poke around inside the case this weekend before i phone tech support incase its anything obvious that i can fix easily.

cashy · Post by **cashy** » September 23rd, 2005, 17:47

just take a second to look at it. can somthing obvious go into that spare hole? was there somthing in there before? is the card in backwards? is the mobo power cord plugged in securely? should my mobo have a coffee stain there? where the fuck am i anyway? are those my legs?

pixie pie · Post by **pixie pie** » September 23rd, 2005, 17:59

Lee.H wrote:
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:hmmm.

that'd make me wonder if it was a heat or psu issue.
Maybe the PSU, I dont think its any hotter than it used to be. It looks like i'm going to have to phone the tech support people, or email them, that'd probably be easier than attempting to tell some one who doesnt know what theyre doing whats wrong then them saying, ok i'll put you through to a technician now and you can explain all that again.

Edit: btw, do you know of any way to test the psu?

Try another PSU That you know works.. Or.. If you reckon it could be Harddrive.. as thats what they changed.. Try a different HD? (Or perhaps its just me that has random bits of PC Lying around doing nothing..

)

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 24th, 2005, 15:45

Right, i've had a look inside the case, everything is as it should be as far as i can tell. But i've revisited the idea of temperatures, I played beef 2 for a couple of minutes then checked the CPU temp and it was reading out at 81 degrees C, doesnt the p4 use thermal throttling and slow itself down when it hits 70 degrees C? And do you think that'd be enough to cause my problems?

Stoat · Post by **Stoat** » September 24th, 2005, 15:59

Google suggests you might run in to a few problems at that sort of temperature.

http://forums.livingwithstyle.com/archi ... --p-1.html

Lee · Post by **Lee** » September 24th, 2005, 16:32

Hmm, if it was temperatures it'd definately make sense, new games need more cpu power, thermal throttling kicks in, slows down cpu and gives bad frame rates. Old games like cod dont need as much cpu so the throttling doesnt affect them.

Strange it wasnt a problem before, although i didnt really bother checking temperatures before so they might have been lower under load.

Post by **deject** » September 24th, 2005, 16:35

Lee.H wrote:Right, i've had a look inside the case, everything is as it should be as far as i can tell. But i've revisited the idea of temperatures, I played beef 2 for a couple of minutes then checked the CPU temp and it was reading out at 81 degrees C, doesnt the p4 use thermal throttling and slow itself down when it hits 70 degrees C? And do you think that'd be enough to cause my problems?

that is very bad. try re-seating your Heatsink Fan, using the proper amount of therman grease of course. If that doesn't work you probably have 2 options: New HSF and a new CPU.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 24th, 2005, 16:36

put your computer tower on it's side (mobo side *DOWN*)

might improve things a little