Lee wrote:I have a strange vertical mouse due to my wrists having the aids. It's actually much more comfortable and accurate than the logitech G5 I had before it. Works fine in games too.
Wrists are still broken though, have been for about 6 months and I dunno how to fix them, can't take a long term break from the computer either thanks to my computer science degree
Unless they invent a vertical keyboard, I guess your forearms will have to get used to the torsion. I had problems with aching wrists when I first started playing PC games a lot, but found them eased by simply moving the keyboard and mouse back away from the table edge, so I could rest my forearms on the table and not "hover" them in mid-air as before.
It still causes me pain sometimes, which is a bit of a pisser, given keyboard/mouse use is kind of essential for my job, but I do some stretching exercises which make me look like I'm trying to grab some invisible boobs which work a bit.
FatherJack wrote:Unless they invent a vertical keyboard, I guess your forearms will have to get used to the torsion. I had problems with aching wrists when I first started playing PC games a lot, but found them eased by simply moving the keyboard and mouse back away from the table edge, so I could rest my forearms on the table and not "hover" them in mid-air as before.
I keep my forearms pretty much completely on the desk because of this, also why I use arrow keys rather than wasd, still not perfect, but works well enough for me.
That vertical mouse looks like an interesting idea. Sitting here reading I notice my hand defaults to a compatible position when I relax & release for reading, so it's got to be a good idea.
Also the bog standard MS laser mice are very good for non-serious use, I own a couple, for work and home use. If they had a couple of extra buttons they'd be perfect.
FatherJack wrote:
Unless they invent a vertical keyboard, I guess your forearms will have to get used to the torsion. I had problems with aching wrists when I first started playing PC games a lot, but found them eased by simply moving the keyboard and mouse back away from the table edge, so I could rest my forearms on the table and not "hover" them in mid-air as before.
It still causes me pain sometimes, which is a bit of a pisser, given keyboard/mouse use is kind of essential for my job, but I do some stretching exercises which make me look like I'm trying to grab some invisible boobs which work a bit.
I know it's not perfect since I'm still twisting to use the keyboard, but before I got this mouse I couldn't use the mouse for more than a few minutes, I can now use it maybe an hour which is a decent improvement. Ideally though I'd like to be back to pain free wrists like they had been my entire life until this started. I keep starting various different exercises but giving up, I plan to try again very soon though especially since I have a 3 week holiday from uni coming up.
Berk, do you use the arrow keys because WASD makes you stretch too far for the mouse? They also do a keyboard to solve that problem. I have that too, nicest keyboard I've ever used.
I was getting pain in my wrist and hand (RSI from The Witcher made my hands go very wrong last year), use of a powerball cleared it right up, and my wrists, hands and fingers are stronger than ever, and more importantly, hurt no more.
The arrows key thing is because I can keep my hand pretty much flat and not mong a load of keys at once, I end up using wasd with a bit of a claw to allow me to hit all the buttons I need, I don't get that with the arrow keys so much.
I get on well with a logitech ultra-x for the same reason really, very flat and short stroke keys, so no added strain from that.
Stretch for the mouse isn't really an issue, I end up moving the arrow keys to basically where wasd is normally for gaming.
I suspect a lot of the trouble I have is just arthritis and other assorted joint issues.
I was getting pain in my wrist and hand (RSI from The Witcher made my hands go very wrong last year), use of a powerball cleared it right up, and my wrists, hands and fingers are stronger than ever, and more importantly, hurt no more.
Yes I have, it's one of the exercises I've tried and gave up on too quickly Was one of my favourites though but I decided to try what the physiotherapist was telling me first.
How often did you use it for and for how long each go? How long did it take to recover?
Fear wrote:Lee have you got one of those argos-esq "computer desks" where there is fuck all room? They are bastards for that.
You need a proper 1 meter deep desk so you can get your elbows and wrists onto the desk.
I have a huge height adjustable desk as well as a fully adjustable chair. They were also bought in an attempt to fix this :p
I'll try moving my keyboard and mouse further onto the desk, those posture diagrams generally tell you to let your arms hang but I suppose it doesn't hurt to try.
I used it daily for probably half an hour on each hand over a few weeks, and I used it a fair bit over the summer. The pain in my right hand did go after a couple of weeks, I remember that clearly.
I know I'm being vague, but the whole point of it is that it's repetive gentle exercise (using the more reps at low impact = toning up of muscles), so I was often reading or writing up notes while doing it and not paying too much attention to it.
And, +1 to resting your forarms on the table, you're not meant to because lots of people when they do it put their forearms flat on the table causing you to hold your wrist at an unusual angle. I've found having your elbows just resting just off the edge of the table (table meets arm about half an inch infront of elbow) means your wrists end up being fairly flat, then it's all just about making sure the you're wrists arn't too close to the keyboard and that they're flatish.
You could also purchase a wrist rest or just run a notepad to rest your arms on so that your wrists are level with the mid point of the keyboard.
I had rsi (not too bad, just occasional stabby in my wrists and fingers) until about five years ago when I broke both my wrists (amongst other things) in a mountain biking accident.
Strangely enough the rsi and other pains caused by damage from years of rugby, climbing, skiing and biking was fixed by this rather violent event because they removed some bony bits from my wrists and an elbow. Since then I get aches and pains but no rsi. You could try a hammer to the wrists.*
*Or a program called workpace, that horses short frequent rests upon you by locking your keyboard and mouse. Better than extended rest periods I believe.
HereComesPete wrote:
*Or a program called workpace, that horses short frequent rests upon you by locking your keyboard and mouse. Better than extended rest periods I believe.
Sounds communist. Also, what if you just so happened to open a particularly naughty email link as it locks down?
HereComesPete wrote:I had rsi (not too bad, just occasional stabby in my wrists and fingers) until about five years ago when I broke both my wrists (amongst other things) in a mountain biking accident.
Strangely enough the rsi and other pains caused by damage from years of rugby, climbing, skiing and biking was fixed by this rather violent event because they removed some bony bits from my wrists and an elbow. Since then I get aches and pains but no rsi. You could try a hammer to the wrists.*
*Or a program called workpace, that horses short frequent rests upon you by locking your keyboard and mouse. Better than extended rest periods I believe.
There was a guy in the news a while ago who regrew a finger with science. I keep saying that I wish I could just cut off my arms and use that to regrow them
I've also been using a program like that, it might be workpace, can't remember exactly what it was called, all I know is that it has a sheep icon.
Thanks everyone for the ideas. Think I'll be trying the powerball again.
Was one of my favourites though but I decided to try what the physiotherapist was telling me first.
