New HDD and data recovery

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 16th, 2008, 18:40

i'm really pissed off with ebuyer. going to get a refund and get one from OCUK instead

Post by **HereComesPete** » January 17th, 2008, 1:11

So the new drive is behaving the same way? Exactly the same way? I can't see WD letting multiple drives from one batch lot slip through without proper testing, it's more likely than from different batches, but still almost as rare as rocking horse shit.

Did ebuyer send you an e-note saying what their 'testing' found with the old drive? I'd say mobo or windoze directory fuck up looks to be a likely source, it could be two shagged drives, but I doubt it.

This may have been asked already, but how are you connecting your hdd to your mobo, and also how are you powering it? sata cable and legacy molex power? or sata data and sata power?

Post by **FatherJack** » January 17th, 2008, 12:14

HereComesPete wrote:Did ebuyer send you an e-note saying what their 'testing' found with the old drive? I'd say mobo or windoze directory fuck up looks to be a likely source, it could be two shagged drives, but I doubt it.

Them being shit and sending the broken one back seems more probable, but it can happen.

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 10:54

it was connected with sata cable and sata power. other sata drives connected in the same way are recognized fine

didn't get a note saying what was wrong with the first one, just that it was faulty, didn't get the same one back as it had a different serial number

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 11:27

on a side note, is it generally a good idea to let new components acclimatise to room temperature before installing, cos with the weather at the moment both these discs were very cold when they were delivered. i left them both a few hours before installing but i'm wondering if this is necessary

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 22nd, 2008, 11:43

I've never bothered, any drives i buy go straight from packing into a backplane, which are considerably hotter than most cases.

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 11:47

fair enough, i just had this idea in my head that rapid temperature change might cause problems like condensation or soemthing, think i might have read about that somewhere maybe in relation to asers on optical drives

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 22nd, 2008, 12:00

it shouldn't do, hard drives are fairly well sealed in that respect.

Post by **HereComesPete** » January 22nd, 2008, 12:20

Condensation wouldn't form on the hdd if it went from very cold to running in your box, it may seem like a significant temperature change, but it wouldn't be enough, plus the airflow and box temperature mean condensation is highly unlikely. And even if it did form, it wouldn't get inside a hdd, it might short a power cable, but that level of condensation would fuck up the entire box, and it'd fuck everything else faster than the hdd.

Rapid temperature change can affect a hdd in the respect that high heat may warp a platter or melt the solder, but we're talking fire for that to happen.

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 13:49

ok cool thanks for that

Post by **HereComesPete** » January 22nd, 2008, 13:54

Np, we likes to helup. You got your ocuk replacement yet?

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 14:02

just got email from ebuyer saying the second drive was tested and found to be faulty a nd they would refund me. no hint as to what the fault could be.

don't suppose there is anything that could be wrong with my hardware taht could damage the discs?

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 14:02

the one from ocuk should be here today, but hasnt arrived yet

tracking syas it was loaded on a van at 8 this morning

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 22nd, 2008, 14:07

The Incredible... wrote:don't suppose there is anything that could be wrong with my hardware taht could damage the discs?

I'm sure there could be many things that'd kill a HDD.

If you have a multimeter, check the voltages on your PSU.

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » January 22nd, 2008, 14:24

don't have a multimeter. but if there was something wrong then srely it would kill the other hard drives.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 22nd, 2008, 14:25

probably, but who knows, random shit is random.

i suspect it was just ebuyer oddness.

Post by **HereComesPete** » January 22nd, 2008, 14:35

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:random shit is random.

QFT.

My old board showed it was dying by powering the front usb's, but only enough that one worked at a time, if I tried to use both things plugged in at the same time I got nothing, if I left them plugged in, but used only one at a time, it was fine. I checked the back ones and they were fine. Few days later I discovered that 4 of the 6 rear usb's had also decided to fall over, the ones without anything plugged in at the time when they all fell over, weird.

eion · Post by **eion** » January 22nd, 2008, 16:00

HereComesPete wrote:Rapid temperature change can affect a hdd in the respect that high heat may warp a platter or melt the solder, but we're talking fire for that to happen.

Not this, as a significant number of the people who bought an old IBM DeskathStar 75GXP can attest to.

eion · Post by **eion** » January 22nd, 2008, 16:02

HereComesPete wrote:Rapid temperature change can affect a hdd in the respect that high heat may warp a platter or melt the solder, but we're talking fire for that to happen.

Not this, as a significant number of the people who bought an old IBM DeskathStar 75GXP can attest to.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 22nd, 2008, 16:16

eion wrote: Not this, as a significant number of the people who bought an old IBM DeskathStar 75GXP can attest to.

However, I think modern hard drives are much less shit than the deathstars were.